from san diego is enrique maronez and an immigration activist and head of the group border angels and steve from the center for immigration study. let me play devil's advocate here. marco came on with bill and came on with me this week and talked about how the new plan does include a real aggressive approach to enforcement that was not in the 1986 amnesty that the commission will be he appointed, the border security will be certified and only then will these undocumented immigrants be able to apply for a path to citizenship. they will have provisional legal status but won't have the pathway to citizenship. what is your response to that? everybody gets amnesty on the first day. not only a social security number but everything that comes with it. u.s. esche sued identification. a driver's license. the ability to travel to and from the united states. open a bank account and get a home loan. everything comes on the first day with the green card light. if we don't enforce the law they can just stay in that status which is what most of them want anyway. if we don't ever enforce the law you we are